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On this episode of I Call Shenanigans, Nate has some strong feelings about renewable energy. We talk about our gripes from this year's Halloween season, and we drop some hints about Season 2.

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Okay.

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And they tried it again this year, but I was like, it's still 80-something degrees outside, and I'm wearing a Harry Potter robe. And I'm like, yeah, broccoli and cheddar sounds [expletive] great right now.

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Just kidding. This is Nat One Presents, a tabletop role-playing game podcast that takes your favorite nerdy games and pop culture icons and ruins them with improv.

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Hello and welcome to Nat One Presents the Podcast. Now, Nate came to me with iCall shenanigans and he said, come up with topics. We'll come up with topics together. That didn't pan out because actually there's a lot of work involved in season two of Nat One Presents, D-Hunters, Dungeons and D-Hunters. So these are my rants that I think about on the daily basis. On the daily. On the daily. Number one. Let me flick that for dramatic effect if you're watching on the Patreon. Which Brian currently is now. Thank you, Brian. D-Bag. Number one is green energy. Now I don't know if it has something to do with my job or what, but I am calling shenanigans on all this green energy propaganda. Number one, I hate windmills. You know how many birds windmills kill?

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Metric tons of birds. Just duck trucks full of dead birds.

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Yes. Like, so if you think if I were to like walk up to one of those like windmills, and we live in the desert, so there's like just a bunch of them in the desert. If we walk up, there's just piles of dead birds around it.

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Yes, absolutely. And then actually uh some of the higher grade solar farms will actually burst birds in the flames. Like the ones that use the concentrated, so they just use it to heat the water right there on the spot. Those will light birds on fire as they're flying through it.

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That's tragic.

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Yes. Now the biggest thing I didn't know you were such a big advocate for the birds. Well, it's I actually am not, but I'm a druid in my heart, so I love all animals. In your heart. Dogs are number one, and then after that, it's probably people. Birds are at the bottom of the list. I'm sorry, birds, but still, this is besides the point. Everyone complains about it, and they're like, oh, we we need green energy, we need this, so they get all these solar panels, but then it just really irks me because they just want they they think they live in this DD [expletive] world. It doesn't work like that. You want solar panels. Well, guess what?

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These things are made in a factory that produce all kinds of hazardous waste to the environment, and then some [expletive] are putting those on a truck and driving and delivering those via diesel-fueled trucks to a factor or to another location where those people are throwing that in a truck and then driving it to your house where they're now using power tools charged by batteries, which is actually fed from the electrical grid system, to install these on your house.

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I have to say, Nate, this is uh a little awkward and uncomfortable because I know you have solar. You are sitting on you are directly underneath, I think the two solar panels that I'm out for my house. Yeah, I can feel it. Like it's gross, yeah. Wow. Yikes. So, all right, real question for you then. Okay, go ahead. You don't think it like levels off eventually? Like it's not like an investment phase and over time it levels off like what the initial energy spent like in fossil fuels to like create it and and doesn't like eventually pay for itself?

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That's all propaganda machine because I'm telling you right now, there's only a certain life expectancy on your solar panel, and they have it set up so those panels will last until if you get them brand new, until you have them paid off. And then they're gonna start [expletive] the bed. And then what are they doing with these solar panels? They're not refurbishing them and putting out used solar panels, they're dropping them off of the dump. Yeah. So now they're just dropping these panels off of the dump. And the same thing is with the windmills. What do you think they're using to make these windmills? It's not recycled materials, it's people smelting ore in Pennsylvania out of iron and [expletive] to make these windmills.

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But then they say those are right, those aren't being though those don't deactivate and get dropped off at the dump, right? So those could be an investment, maybe.

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But then um, when's the last time you drove through California?

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I try to avoid it.

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Oh, me too. I hate that place. If you're listening from California, then get the [expletive] out while you can't. Now, if you're driving through California, a good over 50% of those windmills aren't even moving because they seized up. And now it's a danger to have it if it's not under full control, you can't just have it [expletive] free spinning out there, so they lock them down. So now they're not even being used. So now it's a high giant hunk of metal just sticking out there, not even being used currently. Wow, you've really opened my mind. That I'm just asking people to think about it.

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Yeah, it's fair, it's fair. You know, and now we don't we we don't actually have strong opinions, like the whole segment is about strong opinions, right? But like to each their own, but it's it's really I don't give a [expletive]. But you know what? Like, I don't hear like that perspective ever. There's a lot of sides I hear both sides on. I actually I really haven't heard a lot of that. So the inner Greta Thunborg in in me is losing her mind right now.

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And that's what stemmed a lot of this is I sent Nate a video of Greta Thunberg doing the Rickroll thing at a concert event for climate change. Now, she's at a [expletive] concert for climate change. All those people [expletive] drove there. I know they didn't walk there, you know, and then the the lights going on and the equipment. What's that being run by? It's not being run by some solar panel outside. You know what I'm saying?

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So we just like we just stop doing green energy stuff. Is that the answer? Like, is our is the world literally better if we don't do green energy? Is that what you're saying?

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I don't think that there's gotta be, it's just something else. Like, I'm fine with us trying to find alternate means of elect of electricity, basically, of power, of energy.

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But I'm sure the intention with the windmills were not to like put them out there and they stop working, but it does sound like if the solar panels are being meant to like eventually break down or stop and then have to just be dumped somewhere, that is very concerning. I agree with that. Like, that's not a model. We should have every control over that to just refurbish and reuse or just make them not break. I miss the days, you know. I used to have a [expletive] fan mate, and that [expletive], like I had a fan from like my childhood that I brought here at Tucson and it only died like a year ago, and I had it for like literally over 20 years. And it was like stuff like that.

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And it was like a metal fan, it pushed air. Yeah, now I have these like [expletive] plastic things, and they they like break in a year or two. It's like crazy. Like everything is just like manufactured so cheaply now. Yes, I mean, and I don't I don't know if that has to do with where we get it from. I don't know, but I just feel like China. Here we'll go the China virus. Oh no, China, we are not getting that political on the show. No, no, we're not, I promise. Um, this is this is probably why we need to move to just doing a fantasy world so we don't talk about this stuff.

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Because I'm tired of the real world, but I think that's the biggest thing that bugs me is like you said, that these people preach like, no, we need to do green energy, and this is how we're gonna do it. But it's not working. And for some reason, that just irks me really bad that you say this is gonna save everyone's problem, but it's not. You're making a lot more problems by doing this.

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I mean, I'm gonna go as far as say is like me, me and my spouse do try to do green stuff, but I'll tell you the number one like motivation behind the solar panels for me was cheaper. Like for me, it really was cheaper, unfortunately, than paying whatever the grid system was here. So, like that was truly my motivator. But now I you you've really opened my eyes a little bit, and maybe I have to do a little bit more research on it.

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And that's all I'm asking. Because by the time everything's said and done, you're gonna have to upgrade to new solar panels at some point, and then probably a new inverter because those things have been known to wear out after time, too. And then all that is just more money up front that you're having to spend on this. And then on top of that, the more solar panels. Well, yeah, but on top of that, the more solar panels that come into the system, it actually hurts the grid itself, is because power is purchased. I know this is getting a little boring, and I'm whatever, but it's just something to think about is that power is purchased ahead of time based on what everyone used last year.

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And now, if all of a sudden next month everyone everyone gets solar panels, they overbought all this power. So now you still have to eat it, the cost, because now rates are gonna go up. Yeah, you're using less, but rates are still going up so that they can make back what they lost, kind of deal.

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So I mean, that just sounds like they're the bad guys, though. Like that whole model just kind of seems [expletive] to me to be.

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The only way I can really see it is if you were 100% self-sufficient.

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Yeah, yeah. And then I've seen those people who are like, this week I'm gonna fit all my trash into a glass jar. I'm like, good luck with that. Right. Um, no, I hey, I I really appreciate that feedback. Uh, me, me and my husband do all the time have like talk the talk of like, like, we'll joke, he'll be like, we want to be green. And I'm like, you just threw like you just bought like a whole set of plots, or I'm like, you just threw that in the trash can and didn't even put something in recycling. Like, right, you know, like let's start with what we can do and not what we can't. You know, while we're on green energy, like [expletive] it, let's just do it.

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Uh in our town, I heard like so we put the recycling bins out, but I heard unless it's like a couple, um, like right now, unless it's like glass and one other like thing, like all like the paper and stuff is just being thrown away. Like they're not recycling all that.

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So it's all a ploy.

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Yeah, because a lot of it was going overseas, right? And also, so to send our stuff overseas, how much how much of our fuels and stuff? I I think that is actually where I don't know whatever, but that's where a lot of the facilities and resources are. So it's like it's just so they're not doing it, they're just throwing it away. And so you're right, like there is a lot of talk about green energy, and there's not a lot of like we're not like a lot of politicians, aren't actually they like you know, uh what is it? Like totally green by 2030. I forgot the term they use, right? Or pollution free, or whatever. I don't know, they have like a like a buzzword they're using right now.

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But it's like, what does that mean though? Are you actually doing anything? Like, is that are you just kicking the issue down the road? And then are we implementing these issues that actually aren't maybe even could be worse? I don't know, right? You gotta we gotta talk the talk uh uh as a as a right people and uh planet.

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Because you bring that up, and then uh California's big thing was they were the first ones to go fully green, but not really, because they say they're going fully green, so yeah, there's nobody actually generating non-green energy in California, but they are wheeling a [expletive] ton of power from other states that can do coal or nuclear or whatever, you know, and pushing it across state lines into California. That's how they're getting it around it. But they're fully green, if you ask them. It's great. I get worked up about it.

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Yeah, you know what that directly correlates to. My husband has a joke that he's free to play, so when he played, he doesn't like pay for microtransactions because he uses like my card and he uses my money. So he tells his friends he's free to play, but he's clearly not. That's like that's literally what that sounds like. Technically, he's right. Like, yeah, technically they're green. But yeah, well, we definitely got a lot more serious. I do have one last follow-up question. Okay, when you say the grid, I'm kind of imagining like the matrix. Like, you know, like is there like some kind of like like what the [expletive] is the grid? No, and you can be serious, but I also wouldn't mind a total [expletive] answer. It's okay.

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I'll be serious. The the grid is just uh all the electrical infrastructure in the United States, and that's actually broken up in a bunch of different sections. And fun fact, Texas has its own, that's how big it is.

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Yeah, and it failed [expletive] horrendously bad this year and was evidence of how poor their system is. Yeah, my brother actually had to deal with that.

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Right, right. He's out there, yeah. Yeah, they were out.

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What are your thoughts on that? Tell me about Texas.

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I love Texas. To you, yeah. As far as going that's all I gotta love. That's all I gotta say. I love Texas, yeah. I I love uh going down there and visiting, but as far as when I drive down there, because of my job, I'm always looking at power lines and it annoys the [expletive] out of my wife. But we deal with that, we move on, yeah, and my kids even know now, you know. But going down to Texas, man, that [expletive] looks rough. Really? Yeah, it's janky as well. Like, oh my god, is that hot right now? Like, it shouldn't be. It looks bad. That's awesome. But I can totally see Texas just completely falling down. Yeah, absolutely. But the people are great out there. I love Texas.

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People are great. I hate the immunity, but anyway, moving on. We're not gonna talk about weather on this show.

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Number two for my rant today, cheating in horror trivia games. I went back to the tape. Okay. I know Autumn cheated. I know it. She and you were in cahoots, and you were out to get me the whole episode. I listened to it three times, Nate. And I swear I heard it so loud when you winked at her. I heard the flush of your eyelid and your eyelashes meeting together. That just sounded like like yeah, that was a village with a whoosh at the end of it. And I was like, Yep, I knew it. They were cheating the whole time. And then my buddy, who I forced to listen to the episode, was like, How does she know all these things? And I'm like, I know, right?

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Not one person could absolutely know all of these things that she knows. I call shenanigans.

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So there was a point where like if I were a listener, when I asked the question to like guess how many people die while making the exorcist, and she interrupted me, was like, nine. Like, that was the point where if I was a listener, I'd be like, There's no [expletive] way she just knows that. But um, she's the real deal, Nate. I hate to break it to you. Like, that's uh it uh fake news, Nate. Uh there was no cheating. You got your ass beat on NPR. No, on no, uh real there was I and I and I admitted this at the end of the episode. I did put one question in there where she's like, that's my favorite movie. I didn't tell her the fairy one.

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There was a question about the two, but Nate, if you remember, I asked you who wanted to start and I alternated questions, and I didn't switch them up. So it just happened like you could have got that question. That was the only one. And even if I hadn't given her that question, she still blew you away by like like leaks. Well, I wasn't even keeping track of points. Yeah, and you it's a good it's better I not tell you. It was I think you got three out of I asked 13 questions.

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Uh-huh.

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You I think you got three right, and literally anyone you didn't get right, she did get right. She even knew the answers to the questions that was hers.

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I see. Well, moving on.

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Seriously though, Autumn, if you're listening, you're a fabulous guest. We hope to have you. Maybe you can make an appearance.

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A guest appearance on D Hunter season two.

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You want to be a mermaid, you want to be a bar wench, you want to be uh Goliath, whatever you want.

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Dirty cheater, whatever you want to be.

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I'll write your character, not me.

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Sounds fair enough. Now thank you, though. Uh number three on my rant. The night before Halloween, we went cruising around, checking out decorations in our neighborhood. Megan likes to decorate, and she did good this year. You saw the Enderman that she made, and it was pretty cool. We're like, but there's got to be better houses out there. So we drove around our neighborhood.

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Like it's Christmas, like the people who I got to do their lights. You're expecting that, but for Halloween. Yes. Christmas Day.

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Right. And it was a disappointment. And we're the same people who do that on Christmas too. Like, let's go look at the lights, you know? And yeah, I was really disappointed this year. Because the not last year, obviously, but the year before that, [expletive] was popping out there in my name. And that was year one of COVID. Right. And stuff was looking good out there. And what was something you saw that year? Uh, like one house likes to make their own little uh mini haunted house out there. So you like walk through and it goes into their backyard, which is super creepy, and they sell soup, or not sell, but they just give out soup. Okay.

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And they tried it again this year, but I was like, it was still 80-something degrees outside, and I'm wearing a Harry Potter robe, and I'm like, Yeah, broccoli and cheddar sounds [expletive] great right now, you know. Pass, hard pass. Hard pass. But I did see uh a couple cool things this year. Uh one guy had uh what's his name? The the river man, Chris. Kyron? Karen?

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Caron, yeah.

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Caron. They had one of those, full size looking, and that was cool as [expletive].

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And like I don't even know what he looks like. You're talking about like to the underworld. Yeah, yeah, he's on the boat.

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He had the oar, he had the big hood, and he had the skull that like turned and stuff, and like his jaw moved and they had smoke on it. That's neat. That was really cool. Did you take like a picture or a video or something? Hell no, I was too busy living in the moment. All right. Plus, Roscoe was all pumped. He's like, I want to go to every house. Nice. So we tried to go to every house, at least in the nice neighborhood. Very nice. But it was just a disappointment because there are so many houses who like bought those like strobe lights where they just put the one strobe light facing their house. So it's like purple twirlies, and they're like, done and done. That's decorating. Calling it on that.

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Yeah, like I'm a big person on like either if I'm gonna do something, I'm gonna overdo it. Like anyone can pretty much confirm that. And so, like, there's no way I would like just put a single Halloween decoration because I'd be like, that looks [expletive] stupid. Like, if I don't like, like, I'm not just gonna put cobwebs on one bush, right? Like, you have to like put it on everything, you know. Like um, so yeah, I I think Halloween, it's growing in pot. Like, I'm alarmed at how many people now are like, I love going to spirit Halloween, or that's my favorite store. Like, it's not just autumn, it's not just my last coworker, it's it's it's a growing percentage of people who like your wife wanna decorate for Halloween.

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But I don't think that was always the case. I don't remember driving around people's neighborhoods for I mean to some extent you guys are just weird, but also like I don't even remember people doing strobe blades growing up like outside their house. Unless somebody was actually doing like a haunted house. Yeah, yeah. There were small instances, but yeah, but not generally just like that wasn't a thing. So I think it's growing, and I think we'll get to a point where we we overdo that like everything else and every other holiday. But um, but give it time. But Halloween's also a hard one because I don't know, like there's things about Christmas decorations that still like look cute to me.

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And Halloween, like, if it like if it's not really scary, then I think it just looks cheap and stupid. Right. That's kind of like my thoughts there. So it's like it's almost harder to decorate for Halloween, you know. Like it's easy to just put lights up and like, oh, those are colorful. What are you gonna do for Halloween? Like, you know, right? If you put like a mummy that like looks [expletive].

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I'm glad you asked, Nate. So after looking at the decorations, I have a plan for next year. This is the first time I'm bringing it up to Nate and Chris. Yes. Now, my yard next year. I promise Megan, we're going all out. I'm gonna have a DD themed yard. Really? I'm gonna get one of those like dragons.

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So it has nothing to do with Halloween, you just want to do a DD yard.

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Well, Megan brought up that point, and I said, DD is totally still Halloween. There's gonna be a dragon. I might have an orc, you know, might dress up as a goblin and be like, hey, help me in here, you know. But I was also thinking maybe we sit out front and play DD on the actual Halloween day when people are coming in the trick-or-treating or whatever, and we give out candy. So DD theme yard, playing DD in the yard, and then giving out candy to the punk kids. Sounds like a lot of cool ideas that may not mix.

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Probably never happen. That may not come together as you think. I'm I'm trying to imagine playing DD and getting interrupted every five minutes, but maybe you don't live in that kind of neighborhood.

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No, no, no. I think maximum we had like 20 trick-or-treaters all night. Oh wow. Yeah, it was nothing.

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A lot of extra candy, I bet, huh? No. No, you bought like one man. No, or you the dad who like eats like your candy.

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I was like, one for you, one for me, one for you, two for me.

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Nice.

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Ooh, full size.

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These people are the best. All right, all right. What else what else you got, Nate? All right. I feel like you started real strong. You get you went political and everything on the first, and then that one was just kind of like a little baby one. Right. Oh, yeah, you also accused Ottoman cheating.

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Never mind. Now, this next one is a twofer, fake currency and digital content. We'll start with the second part. Digital content. Why am I still paying full price for a video game and I don't even get a hard copy of it with an art book or anything with it? It's just like game downloaded straight to your PC.

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Like you aren't paying production fees anymore, that number. Sure. Why? It's because well, it's because the resources going into making these games are getting more expensive. So even though the, you know, we don't need you're not getting cases and artwork anymore, that doesn't mean that maybe twice as many people are working on a project. Like these games are so in-depth now, you know, they're not, it's not it's not the days anymore. I mean, there are in D-rate developers. I'm I'm sure. Chris, if if you were here, he's here, uh, could go into it more.

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But I in my opinion, like, yes, to some extent, when it when we first made the jump to digital, it was like, okay, probably we could have like, but now I think uh like games are always gonna get more expensive because the the technology is always changing, so it's just always gonna be now.

20:46

What about movies? I understand there's a lot that we stream, but if I still use voodoo to get like new movies, and that's still 20-some bucks for [expletive] Mortal Kombat, and like Sonya, I saw you in theaters, you weren't worth $20 for a digital copy. Do I am I just not getting it? Am I not holding a digital copy of something as enough value of what it is as opposed to a physical copy I can hold in my hand?

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I get it. I think we're this unique generation. The generation before us had physical everything, and they and they like they owned what they had, you know, like you didn't make Mortal Kombat, but if you had a copy of it, this is my Mortal Kombat, right? But the world we were and we were born into that world, but now we're at we're in the world now where it's changed, and now uh we're like really when we buy stuff, we're signing agreements that say we don't even own the thing that we're watching that we put on our device, like it's not it's still not ownership anymore. So things have changed. So I think here here's just my thought is that I think you have to let go a little bit. First of all, stop by movies.

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That's why I learned a few years, like just stop. Like at this point, like even if I were now to rent my favorite movie, like let's say Mortal Kombat, right? It's probably like five dollars to rent on like Amazon, right? If I do that four times. And I'm well, actually, Nate, you do watch a movie four times.

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Yes.

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I was gonna say, like, for me to watch a movie four times, it would be years. It would take years for me to spend what it would have cost for me to just buy the movie outright. Right. But you have children, I forget that that's the thing. Children, we watch movies. So maybe that makes more sense. But I'm in the world where like buy a like then just watch movies on Netflix that you don't like, you're still paying, it's just $13 every month, and you're not you don't own them, but you don't have to like have the copy separately. I have to do it.

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But I'm so sad when they disappear.

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I guess I I don't know. I just I gave up a long time ago. I had this whole thing. Uh mom, if you're listening, I'll go ahead and share it. So I I used to collect DVDs. I had this like, uh, I'll only spend like five or ten dollars on DVD, I'll wait till it's like under a certain amount and then I'll buy it. And I collected like my favorite movies, and I have like two like DVD towers of stuff. And when I moved out to the West Coast, I was like, Mom, you can have this or hold on to it for me.

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I maybe said she could have it, but I think in my mind, she was holding on to it until one day I could like afford to like kind of you know, back then it was just kind of like here's three bags, that's what I'm moving to the other side of the country with. Anyway, long story short, she ended up like she gave the like action ones to my brother, and she gave the like chick flicks to my sister, and I was like, I don't know why I gave it to her, or I you know, like I should have kind of just let go. But to me, the idea that my movie collection was split up and given to other people really bugged me. Oh, yeah. It's like it's silly, you know.

23:24

So because you bought it and it was your stuff, yeah.

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I think maybe like I thought I'd get it back one day, but that's silly because I told my mom she could have it. But once she split it up, it's like one, you're definitely not getting it back, and then two, like I had curated a collection, and now that was just like torn apart. It's like, oh, and Deborah got this, and it might as well like I know who did E, what did Ian get? Like that belongs to that other movie, like they go together, like you know. So um, I don't know. After that, it really kind of like I'm not buying movies anymore. I know, and I just feel like the price model doesn't encourage that anymore.

23:27

I also though I'm trying to learn, like, I'm just like I don't have enough time to like have collections of of stuff anymore. So like I'm just I've decided like I'm just gonna watch something on Netflix. Even if there's stuff I want to watch that's not Netflix, well, Netflix is what I have, you know. So I'll get a couple streaming services, that will be the exception, but like I'm just not gonna I'm not gonna start collecting stuff. I don't know. Like like Netflix has literally what thousands, tens of thousands? Oh, especially if you get a VPN, then what is it? Unlimited? Yeah, same same thing with like HBO, same thing with a bunch of other stuff.

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Like, do I really can I really just not find something out of that to make the kids watch, to make my partner watch for me to watch? Can I watch the office again? Yeah, exactly. Like and well, and that's a thing too. Like, we are just watching the same thing. So if you have a service. So I'm just trying to keep at this point. I don't think there it just doesn't make sense anymore to try to stockpile that stuff.

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I understand that.

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I think as human natures, we want to collect, we want to have and possess things. Yes. Like that's like a weird like thing that is very human. Um or goblin. Yeah. But exactly. But I think at the end of the day, like we don't we don't need it. You're like, why do you there's just so much content out available? Like, frankly, you could just watch Netflix stuff if you tried hard enough. There's probably just free, or sorry, I meant YouTube. Like, there's probably like free shows on YouTube um that you could even for children, like children's series are probably on YouTube, like you could probably just not pick for anything, even Netflix if you didn't want to, right? So that's that's where I'm at. I don't know. Like, I call shenanigans.

24:45

I call shenanigans on your shenanigans.

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25:22

That makes sense. Now, how do you feel about the digital currency? Like all this crypto stuff. Like, I uh do you have crypto?

25:28

Because I do not. I have no understanding of it. Um, I I think you you should just if you are not already, if you weren't already like dealing with stocks and investing and like understanding that kind of stuff, then you need to stay a [expletive]. When people talk to me about crypto and like they weren't even doing like real investing before that, then I just literally think you're the dumbest person I've ever been. Like I, you know, I'm sorry, but like one, you have to make sure you actually know what you're doing for investing and you need to be practicing it. And then even then, am I still like skeptical of of crypto? Yeah, right. You know, at a certain point it's something that says it's something else.

25:28

I don't know, like it's you're uh you're you're attributing a value to something that now doesn't even exist. Like, like right, a bar of gold has a value and it's something I can hold in my hand and hit you with.

26:17

Yes.

26:18

Um, so like you know, that I can always measure. And then I mean, but when you think about our paper money, like our paper money is backed by something, but the actual bills itself are you know worthless. Yeah, it gets weird. Like, is that really so different than crypto?

26:34

I'd say yes, but because even like you said, with stocks and bonds and stuff, that is still at least documentation that you have something. Now with the crypto, it'd be so easy for them to be like, oh no, you don't have anything. Gone. There's nothing tangible to really hold on to, and that irks me for some reason.

26:52

I never want to be the old person that like when they just don't understand something, they write it off. Because that's what you know, like when you that's what that's the old people I know are just like that's not we wrote letters, checks are stupid, you know. Like I'm not, I don't want to be that person when I grow up. So maybe there's some maybe there's something to it, but for me, well, first of all, like clearly by doing this podcast, you can totally not have a lot of money. And so I don't have it to invest for the most part anyway. But if I do, it's not gonna be crypto. Right now, there are people who can make killings off of it. Awesome.

26:52

Uh, you just gotta know what you're doing, but it's so funny because there's there's so many people. Usually the people who are telling me about crypto are not the rich investors who are making thousands of dollars every day or whatever. It's it's never those people that are talking about stuff, right? The people who have really strong opinions on the internet, they're usually not the ones, you know. Or they're only they're like making money, like instructing people, like being an influencer on it. But I a lot of times I think it's not even like the crypto that's making them the money. It's them, the illusion that they're an expert. And then being like an influencer is actually what's getting, right? So that's just my thoughts. I know there's probably exceptions.

26:52

I'm sure there's our actual crypto experts, there's actual like investors who are making a killing. All that I totally believe it. But for the everyday person, maybe save your money, maybe open a savings account, maybe just stop spending. I don't know. Maybe just implement basic financial like go get a Roth IRA or whatever it is.

28:14

Yeah, you know?

28:16

Yeah, start matching your pro in game. Do the basics. Right.

28:18

Start with it.

28:19

Come on. Come on. Come on, catch it in.

28:21

All right, I'm over that one. Now, next rant. Trick-or-treaters. Most of them are nice. Yeah, sorry, I skipped in my notes. Trick-or-treaters. Most of them are really nice. But again, as everyone recalls the bowl incident of last year, my really nice Tim Burton bowl was stolen when we tried to leave it out, and trick-or-treaters came and they just took the whole bowl and everything. The whole bowl. It was a nice bowl. Now, this year, we were gone. Corbin's inside the house, and me and Megan took Rosco out and about. And we were gone for maybe 45 minutes tops. They knocked over our little crow that we had there, knocked over a bunch of pumpkins. And it's still daylight outside right now. Like, what is wrong with like take watch your kids? What's going on?

28:21

I'm always upset about it. It's like because we weren't even gone that long. And like, this is my property, and now you're messing it up for some candy. You know, you just take the candy and leave.

29:18

Yeah.

29:18

I I don't know, that's that's so different from like growing up. I always always weirded out. Like, if like your front door wasn't at the very front edge of your property, sometimes I didn't even want to like go like walk into your yard or past your gate. So like I just felt so uncomfortable doing that. So it's like I don't get how kids can like go and like mess people's [expletive] up. I'm like, man, I feel like I'm just like, uh, I don't want to walk that far. Like, I'd rather just go to the next house that has a door like well lit in the front. Like, I don't know if I'm just like a security cat or whatever at that point, or it's antisocial, probably is a factor.

29:18

But yeah, yeah, I think that's [expletive]. Um and to reiterate, because it wasn't in an old episode, it was actually an episode that never aired, but is on our but is on our Patreon. Yeah, go check it out. Only a dollar. Hades versus Zeus. Hades, yeah, it's from a DD deat match, Hades versus Zeus. Yeah. And uh Hades shows up at a party and like returns a whole classic. Classic. And I'd just like to take a moment uh before we go on to the next topic, uh, to address Patreon concerns. So, what are we gonna do next season for the Patreon? There'll still be a dollar membership. Yep. Uh, if you want the bonus episode, there'll still be a five dollar membership. Yep.

29:18

Um, any membership above that is really just you want to give us money, and we really want that too. I appreciate it. Um, but uh there will still pretty much the same benefits will still be available. So the bonus episodes will not be necessarily like it's not like you're just gonna miss an entire episode that like was essential to the story. It'll be like the side quest, the spin-off, the beach episodes. Yeah, they'll be funny as hell though, and we'll go push the lines even more than we normally do. But uh, yeah, you'll still get all those normal benefits. So if you're a patron, please God keep paying us. Oh, yeah. Because we invested a lot of money in season two.

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30:54

It's still worth it.

30:55

Like a lot, a lot, a lot of money.

30:57

Some of our best episodes are beach episodes. As far as our uh natural playing DD, like when we had our big group and everything. Beach episodes were the best. Are you thinking about sugar [expletive]? I am thinking about sugar [expletive]. RIP Sugar [expletive]. Sugar [expletive]. Sugar [expletive] R.I.P.

31:12

All right, we got next thing you list. Okay, next. I'm glad I didn't do a list because your list is going way longer than normal. Like you are extra passionate than normal.

31:20

Oh, I'm feeling it. Now, overselling events. Let me lay down the foundation for you, Nate. We're going to another trick-or-treating function at the local zoo here, and they sold so many online tickets, and then they still had availability to buy tickets up at the gate. But they apparently thought, like a [expletive] southwest flight or something, that they weren't going to sell enough tickets. They oversold. So we got there probably 30 minutes early before the gates opened, and the line was [expletive] a mile long, man. A mile long. And I got two little kids, one ten, one three, and they don't want to wait in a line, but here we are, waiting in a line.

31:20

So we waited in this line for an hour and a half to get into this zoo because they oversold tickets and eventually stopped selling tickets at the gate. So if you didn't even Yeah, we got in because we had already had our online tickets. So it wasn't exactly like a Southwest where they're like, Oh, you're not getting on a plane today. Sorry, sucker. We still got in. But then once we got in, because it was so full, we're just still in a line the whole time we're there. So it was like the whole event was hey, come stand in a line. Yeah. And it was awful.

31:20

And I heard they did the same thing at the local pumpkin patch too, where they ended up actually having to turn people away from there because they oversold the [expletive] out of it. Where it got to the point where if you showed up, they're like, No, we're not buying you a physical ticket. Like, you should have got online tickets, and best of luck to you.

32:47

Well, I mean, that is definitely the lesson. Uh unfortunately, that's that someone's gonna get effed. Make sure it's not you, buy online tickets for one. Um, and then uh two stories come to mind. So I was recently at a wedding. Uh, I had a really good time with some friends. It was fun, met some new friends. It was the funniest guy there. I felt like it sometimes. Sounds the most obnoxious. I think it wasn't the funniest, it was uh just uh maybe a bit much. I I like I'm used to being second fiddle to you, Nate. Like you bring so much energy of all sorts um to the show, and so I think like me being at 20% of that's totally fine.

32:47

Me being 20% of you in a normal environment was like a thousand percent to other people. So it was it was a lot. So I'm I glad my friends uh they were they took it like champs. Uh but look at Mr. Funny over there. We had a fun time. I talked a little bit about the podcast. I brought business cards, but I didn't have the heart. I was also drunk most of the time, so I didn't I didn't have them around, I didn't hand them out. But start throwing them on the floor and we'd be like, oh, what's this? What's this? Well, funny you mentioned that. Uh, but hopefully we have some some listeners who who were there as well. Um, but two stories came up.

32:47

One was that on the day of the wedding, uh, the guy who did like the wedding, he's not a planner. And so for like the women are the the like the the bride and the groom's uh parties both kind of separated that day and did separate things. The girls were like all getting their heads done, and all our guys and and his friends and our like our spouses and partners, we did something separate. So I was like, Nick, what are we gonna do today? We have a bunch of hours. Of course, he wanted to go shooting, and we explained like that we don't have a lot of time, you have to be at a wedding in a few hours. Like, that just seems like not ideal.

32:47

And it like literally we met somewhere like five minutes across the street from the hotel, and it took everybody like 30 minutes to get there. So it's like, you know, like things just take longer in groups, and like we don't have like shooting would be fun, but we don't have time for that, right? Um, so the closest thing to like where we were staying, we're like, oh cool, there's a sculpture park. Well, this was a Saturday, and this was two weeks before um Halloween. But anyway, we got there and it was it was basically a themed event. And we got there, and we're like, all right, well, this would be cool.

32:47

They're like, yeah, there's children walking around, but yeah, we'll just kill a couple hours, walk around the sculptures, and see the kids in their costumes. But anyway, we got there and they were sold out. No, like this wasn't even oversold, they just closed it. And so, like, now for me or like adults, we just went and did something else to work. We worked like, you know, a broadwalk or something. But imagine like being a kid getting dressed up and showing up. Oh, that'd be so sad. This leads me to my second story, which was another one, I hope, even though it's sad. Um, my last company did a corporate party at Dave and Buster's, and we like bought the place out.

32:47

And like on a Friday, I think it was a Friday night, and then we like it meant it wasn't open to the public. So I was walking, we got to Dave and Buster's, and I got we we went like fashionably late, so the event was already there, it's already dark. But as we like park, we're like behind this like other family walking up to the door, and they're holding birthday presents. It's the kids' birthday, and they got up and they wanted to go, they brought these kids to Dave and Busters, and they actually had to have somebody at the front door be like, Oh, we're close for a private event, blah blah.

32:47

And like literally one of the kids like, but it's my birthday, and they were holding and they were holding presents, and then like I couldn't, I was so uncomfortable and sad I couldn't take it anymore, so we were just like, excuse us, and we like walked around and went inside. It was like so [expletive] up, and I don't know that that's a tough thing because like businesses do that sometimes, and somebody else was like, Well, they should have called. I'm like, Have you ever [expletive] called before going to a David Busters? Like, are you gonna be no? Like, nobody does that. So, like, there's nothing like some people are like, Well, those parents should have planned ahead. Like, no, I don't like I would have probably thought that was fine.

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36:22

Especially if he was just doing a small thing, like he's having like three friends, like, let's just go to the house.

36:26

So, like, man, I felt really bad. Like, it definitely was a weird way to start that night. Oh, yeah. Then there was free alcohol and food, and I got better. Oh, you're fine. And I also got it, was uh that event ended up being great because basically it was at Damon Busters, but like all the adults were just at the company were just there to drink. Right. So everybody got a $20 play card and they just kept giving it to us. Like me and my spouse and and Chris was there too. Um, it was a blast. And they like they were just loading up some of the cards.

36:26

Had we been smarter too, we figured out a game that gave like a lot of we could have actually made out like bandits, but we didn't realize till the end. Got those tokens, yeah. It was it was crazy. So anyway, yeah, overselling events or selling doing like private parties and not like making it very clear when you're like normally just like a public like place. That sucks. It sucks. And you and I can be like, oh, that's [expletive], but whatever. But a child does not really understand. They don't know what overselling is, they don't understand that businesses do that on purpose, thinking you know, five percent of people won't show up. That's not a thing, right? It's not a thing. I'm just not gonna bring my kids anywhere and they won't have any expectations.

37:26

I can't believe you push that kid down just so you can get in band busting. Like, move aside, [expletive]. I'm coming through. I'm gonna go in there and have so much fun. Happy birthday.

37:35

I just grab his present and walk by. Like, thanks, kid. It's my birthday too, [expletive].

37:41

Uh, that's uh canon. That's how it went. Yep, that's how it went down. That's how I'm gonna always remember it. All right, I got one more thing on my list, and that is uh because of the spooky season, we've been watching a lot of scary shows lately. I know, but we've been watching more often, and now I've come to find out Roscoe actually likes spooky shows. So I've been watching a lot more kids friendly spooky shows, and I am sad to inform everybody that the quality of the kids spooky show is a million times better than the [expletive] adult spooky shows that I watch.

37:41

Yes, no, there's actual plot, there's development, there's character relationships and [expletive], and I'm like, oh my god, this is way better than the last piece of [expletive] I watched, where some lady was hiking with her [expletive] colt a mile up a mountain, and I ended up just turning it off because it's [expletive] boring as [expletive]. But this is like, oh man, this is getting good. Oh, what's going on? Oh wow, and then me and Roswell are just sitting there watching it, and I'm like, oh [expletive] yeah. So I'm having I call shenanigans on all these adult movies, like, what the [expletive] are you doing?

38:48

Like it's not hard. There's literally a blueprint in front of you, and it's a children's show. It's so easy. Children can do. I mean, adults make the show, but you you get the point, right?

38:54

Right, and like uh Disney Plus, there's like a beyond something, it's like R. L. Stein thing, it's not goosebumps, it's called Beyond Something. And all of those are good. Really? They're all good. And like one of them was like pretty spooky, I thought, for like a kid's show, you know, like the main bad guy was like definitely spooky, like a slender man looking thing. Yeah, yeah. And Roscoe was like, oh, like covering his eyes, and I'm like, me too, bud. You know? But like the actual story is good, and it made me mad instantly. Because here I am wasting my time. I'm just gonna stick to kid horror shows. Because at least I get enjoyment out of it, and I don't get pissed off at the ending.

39:30

That's crazy. I would have never I totally thought when you were starting to say you were gonna talk about how [expletive] like kids' scary shows are, and that's the exact opposite.

39:37

I'm super disappointed.

39:39

I have nothing to say in that. That's just like fun fact. I will maybe check some out.

39:43

There you go.

39:44

So are you done? Are you done ranting? I'm calm down now.

39:47

I'm I'm actually too excited for season two coming up.

39:50

It's pretty big deal. I know.

39:52

Check out the cover art, everybody. It's pretty cool.

39:55

Yeah, so uh that's all we got for today. Thank you so much. Really, honestly, it's about the fans. Yes. No, we're just kidding. No, we're not fans. Uh no, seriously though, like our friends, our family, anyone who has been uh suffering through season one, we really appreciate it. Uh, we have learned a lot. If you go back and watch like episode one, two, before and it was Rough City, like you can tell like some things are done better. You can definitely, the video quality has way improved on our Patreon. Like, there's been so much growth. Uh, maybe some episodes are still not as good as we want them to be. Season two, we're we're really, and we've joked about this, but we are upping the preparation, right?

39:55

If you if you're on the Patreon right now, I have multiple, sorry, I'm gonna do it from the mic, I have multiple packets and pages and notes that I have taken for the next episode we're about to do. Um so that's that's our promise. If you promise to pledge us money and share episodes so other people can discover discover us, or just listen, um, we promise we're gonna put even more effort into the show so it is top-notch quality and you can enjoy it. So we're not just gonna wing everything anymore, guys. Like you're still gonna get that fun, like on the fly, like you know, just whatever knock us up. Solid humor. Yeah, you're still gonna get that stuff that you love, but we can also enhance it by having more available.

39:55

And we we want to do that for ourselves and for you. So season two is gonna be a good time. I really encourage you if you're just here for the trivia or whatever, give it a shot. You know, we'll still have some intros. Uh, you know, maybe not the first episode of season two, but we'll definitely still incorporate other fun things. So check it out.

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41:22

Yep. Uh maybe join the Patreon, get involved, send some comments. That can always be a bonus episode where we do another one of those. And then maybe you get involved as a listener. It's open for whatever. But season two is locked in. D hunters.

41:34

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41:34

And so it's uh yeah, it really, it really it ultimately it benefits you. Right? The listener.

42:18

Thank you.

42:18

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42:21

Just pay us the dollar. Just a dollar. And share it to people so they can give us a dollar. That's all I want. Mic drop. Get ready for season two. Bye.